{"id":6503,"date":"2018-03-10T10:49:00","date_gmt":"2018-03-10T10:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/?p=6503"},"modified":"2020-05-30T09:04:09","modified_gmt":"2020-05-30T09:04:09","slug":"discovered-mother-and-siblings-of-margaretha-diedel-1654-1705","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/discovered-mother-and-siblings-of-margaretha-diedel-1654-1705\/","title":{"rendered":"HELP FROM THE PAST: THE GOLLER LIST"},"content":{"rendered":"

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The Diedel family originates from the area around M\u00fcnchberg and Kleinlosnitz. To this day, this is the area where the majority of people named Diedel or Dietel are found. It is assumed that the name was derived from the first name Dietrich, which in return goes back to the old-Franconian word \"thiuda\", meaning <\/span>\"rich (powerful) person among the people\" or \"ruler of the people\". The english name Derrik is the equivalent to Dietrich, Dieter etc.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Margaretha Diedel [Dietel] is my 6 x great grandmother and a native of Upper Frankonia, a region in Southern Germany which includes Bayreuth and the surrounding area.<\/p>\n

I didn't know much about Margaretha.\u00a0From records at my disposal, I knew Margaretha was born around 1650 and may have originated from M\u00f6ldenreuth, a small hamlet near M\u00fcnchberg, Bavaria in the very northern part of what was the Principality of Brandenburg-Bayreuth during Margaretha's lifetime. Her father was a farmer in M\u00f6dlenreuth and his first name was Cunradt. Her grandfather, Cunradt's father, was probably named Fritz, as Cunradt was sometimes called \"Fritzens Cunradt\" in these sources.<\/p>\n

I found church records from Zell, the parish to which M\u00f6ldenreuth belonged, listing a number of births around the alleged birth year of Margaretha, in which a Cunradt Diedel was named as the father and a Margaretha as the mother. \u00a0I supposed, these may have been her siblings, however, I could not verify a connection, as \u00a0Margaretha's birth entry was missing from the records and I didn't know her mother's name. I had also conducted some general research on the family name and Diedel\/Dietel families in the M\u00fcnchberg area, so I had a variety of names and family constellations in my data bank. A connection between these families and M\u00f6ldenreuth could not be established.<\/p>\n

Hitting the brick wall, most genealogists know so well, I placed a request to the members of \"Franken-L mailing list\", asking if anybody had an idea, on how I could find Margaretha's birth entry and the name of her parents. Within a day or two, a member mailed me a series of document named \"AL Goller\" suggesting I may find an answer there. And indeed, I did.<\/p>\n

In the 1970s the German family historian Hans Goller put together the \"AL Goller\" (Ahnenliste Goller), a list of his Goller ancestors and affiliated families. His list was amended by Hans Sachs in 1978. One of the affiliated families listed was the Diedel family from M\u00f6dlenreuth and the family of Margaretha's mother.<\/p>\n

After carefully studying Mr. Goller's notes and cross checking them with other sources from M\u00fcnchberg and Zell, which\u00a0I found on the family genealogy site www.archion.de<\/a>, I made one of the most exciting discoveries of my Dietel research: the long sought-after birth entry for Margaretha and the marriage date of her parents in the church records of M\u00fcnchberg. These findings confirmed the connection to the births in M\u00f6dlenreuth. I was now able to verify the names of Margaretha's siblings I had previously found in the baptism registry of Zell. Another exciting discovery was finding the names of Margareta's maternal grandparents as well as confirming the name of Cunradt's father.<\/p>\n

With this information I was able to piece together a brief biography of her family from the records. I did not find a connection between the Diedel families of M\u00f6dlenreuth and Kleinlosnitz, but as their paths crossed in L\u00f6sten, the home of Margaretha Bencker, it is highly probable, that they are related in some way. Given the fact, that the connection may lie beyond church book recordings, no further research is conducted at present to support or reject this hypothesis.<\/p>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n

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Margaretha Diedel [Dietel] - birth record
Margaretha Bencker [Benker, B\u00e4ncker] - marriage & death records
Joh. Diedel [Dietel] - birth record
Georg Diedel [Dietel] I - birth record
Georg Diedel [Dietel] II - birth & death records
Georg Diedel [Dietel] III - birth record
Elisabeth Diedel [Dietel] - marriage record
Maria Diedel [Dietel]- birth and marriage records
Gertraud Diedel [Dietel] - marriage records<\/p>\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t

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Dietel, Karl. M\u00fcnchberg. Geschichte einer Amts- und Industriestadt.<\/em> 1963.<\/p>\n

Dietel, Karl. \"Zwischen Waldstein und D\u00f6braberg \u2013 Die geschichtliche Entwicklung des Landkreises M\u00fcnchberg.\"<\/em><\/p>\n

Eisenmann, Joseph Anton. Topo-geographisch-statistisches Lexicon vom K\u00f6nigreiche Bayern, oder alphabetische Beschreibung aller im K\u00f6nigreiche Bayern enthaltenen Kreise, St\u00e4dte, M\u00e4rkte, D\u00f6rfer, Weiler, H\u00f6fe, Schl\u00f6sser, Ein\u00f6den, Gebirge, vorz\u00fcglichen Berge und Waldungen, Gew\u00e4sser usw.<\/em>. Palm und Enke. 1832.<\/p>\n

Evangelisch-Lutherische Kirchengemeinde\u00a0Himmelskron.\u00a0Taufen, Trauungen, Bestattungen 1655 - 1776.<\/em> Viewed April 2015 on site<\/p>\n

Goller, Hans. Familiengeschichte Goller nebst Ahnenliste<\/em>.\u00a0 undated.<\/p>\n

Goller, Hans; Sachs, Hans. Familiengeschichte Goller nebst Ahnenliste. Erg\u00e4nzungen durch Hans Sachs.\u00a0 October 1978.<\/p>\n

Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern, M\u00fcnchberg. \"Trauungen und Bestattungen 1574 - 1675<\/em>\". Kirchenbuchportal GmbH, Stuttgart. Online data base.\u00a0 www.archion.de (accessed Nov 4th, 2017<\/p>\n

Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern, M\u00fcnchberg. \"Taufen 1574 - 1675<\/em>\".\u00a0Kirchenbuchportal GmbH, Stuttgart. Online data base.\u00a0 www.archion.de (accessed Nov 4th, 2017)<\/p>\n

Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern, Zell (Dekanat M\u00fcnchberg). \"Taufen, Trauungen, Bestattungen 1568 - 1618\u00a0<\/em>\".\u00a0Kirchenbuchportal GmbH, Stuttgart. Online data base.\u00a0 www.archion.de (accessed Nov 4th, 2017)<\/p>\n

Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern, Zell (Dekanat M\u00fcnchberg). \"Taufen, Trauungen, Bestattungen 1618 - 1656\u00a0<\/em>\". Kirchenbuchportal GmbH, Stuttgart. Online data base.\u00a0 www.archion.de (accessed Nov 4th, 2017<\/p>\n

Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Bayern, Zell (Dekanat M\u00fcnchberg). \"Taufen, Trauungen, Bestattungen 1657 -1711<\/em>\". Kirchenbuchportal GmbH, Stuttgart. Online data base.\u00a0 www.archion.de (accessed Nov 4th, 2017)<\/p>\n

Wikipedia. \"Geschichte der Stadt M\u00fcnchberg<\/em>\". www.wikipedia.de (accessed Oct 4th, 2019)<\/p>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\t<\/div>\n\t<\/section>

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Margarete Diedel or Dietel’s origins were almost impossible to retrace, until the AL Goller, a list of families from the M\u00fcnchberg region turned up. The list was compiled around the 1970s or even earlier.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7558,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[111,98,14,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6503","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-dietel-diedel","category-discoveries","category-family-trees","category-blog"],"brizy_media":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6503","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6503"}],"version-history":[{"count":29,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6503\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7597,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6503\/revisions\/7597"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7558"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6503"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6503"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/egizia.family\/de\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6503"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}